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Phades · Aug 31, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Vindexus

Because you are wanding people for the damage. Tiger's Fury makes you wand faster and it doesn't black out your wanding, which is what you're doing.

Is that a size matters not argument? What is the point of having the other skills if you cant use them? What is the point of the build when none of the other 6 skills in the bar help accomplish that goal?

I am not arguing for this flare build, but that wand build is just silly.

Mercury Angel · Aug 31, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Fast casting increases the DPS of flare by only 29%, due to the aftercast being unaffected. [1 second cast + .75 seconds after cast vs .5 second cast +.75 seconds aftercast]

At 12 fire and 16 fast casting, you're looking at 32 DPS...
Yay?

IF, and that's IF, you can keep Mark of Rodgort on, you'll get 46 DPS, which is still negligable.[That's only applicable with one person. With 3 spamming, you'd have a total of 110 DPS]

For a 16 fire ele, you're looking at 27 DPS.

In either case, the damage is very poor.

zehly · Aug 31, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Flare FTW. It is the easist build to play, too!!! Can't go wrong

rii · Aug 31, 2005, 08:06 PM // 20:06

"easiest to play"

and its hard to press more than one button at a time?

lets put it like this. 42dps is crap. there is no tactical advantage to doing this over hitting someone.

o wait, thats already been said.
lots and lots and lots can go wrong with this. dont do it.

Eonwe · Aug 31, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phades

I am not arguing for this flare build, but that wand build is just silly.

I'm pretty sure it was made for the sake of being silly.

Phades · Aug 31, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Was that the same reasoning for the stances build?

Eonwe · Aug 31, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by Phades

Was that the same reasoning for the stances build?

You mean my uber tank 1v1 warrior build of mending, shield stance, gladiator's defense, bonetti's defense, riposte, deadly riposte, defensive stance, and healing signet? No no, I was planning to use that in GvG because it r0x0rzed so much

.

Saerden · Sep 01, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Come on people. I actually won a match with only 2 skills on my bar:

flare and ... arcane echo. and guess what i echoed.....

rii · Sep 01, 2005, 08:08 AM // 08:08

im not in question that you didnt win with just flare. i often run into the arena with just diversion and restore life on my skill bar, and dam dont i beat the crap out of those monks.
the point is, the person you beat with flare and echo, was an idiot. there are so so so many things you can do to shaft someone doing this, and if were talking about a match here, where they had monks, who couldnt heal past that measly amount of damage, then that merely enforces the idea that they were idiots.

tastegw · Oct 06, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

hmm, lol this was just an idea and over 75% of you guys said it sucked.

it was also over a month ago and was created for fun, to be different.

just to show some of you that testing weird things out is not stupid.

have a look.

Sister Rosette · Oct 06, 2005, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Lol people why not just take arcane echo and echo and spam Flare
in 3 skill slots!

Go for the most redundancy possible!!

rii · Oct 06, 2005, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Actually flare build works..... go check hall, its somewhere. 8 Me/E with flare = just under 320dps. Not good, but it again proves that you can do anything in tombs and get away with it.

Guizzy · Oct 06, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Saerden

Come on people. I actually won a match with only 2 skills on my bar:

flare and ... arcane echo. and guess what i echoed.....

Well, maybe you waited for the timer on Arcane Echo to come back up and echo'ed that!

Try to beat that for fooling the other team into seppuku!

Echo'd Echo FTW!

Slade xTekno · Oct 06, 2005, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by SuperJ24

hmm, lol this was just an idea and over 75% of you guys said it sucked.

it was also over a month ago and was created for fun, to be different.

just to show some of you that testing weird things out is not stupid.

have a look.

What's so weird about an all-counter Mesmer? And, why in the world did you bump this thread?

PaulOtt · Oct 06, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperJ24

hmm, lol this was just an idea and over 75% of you guys said it sucked.

it was also over a month ago and was created for fun, to be different.

just to show some of you that testing weird things out is not stupid.

have a look.

What? Where's the "weird things" that I'm supposed to be looking at?

tastegw · Oct 06, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno

What's so weird about an all-counter Mesmer? And, why in the world did you bump this thread?

perhaps my wording misguided you.

the point of the pictures are, unless you test out "different" things for pvp, your not going to get as far as the guys that do test out "different" things in pvp.

i wasnt trying to say my mesmer build was different or strange in the pictures above, it was to show you guys that i know what im doing when it comes to pvp.

that is all for now.

tigernz · Oct 06, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

I ran across one of these Flareways the other day.

Stuck diversion on him and he was so busy mashing the flare button I don't think he even noticed until Flare was gone from his skill bar.

He stood there for a minute like a gimp then left

rii · Oct 06, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

..............well they usually bring a load of pbaoe spam as well, so perhaps..... he didnt know what he was doing :S

qwe4rty · Oct 06, 2005, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Burning doesn't stack. It's a condition that can only be applied once at a time. You'll have the grand total effect of one burning condition and a whole lota flare spams, which won't kill anything. "Constant conditioning" on one target is nothing. Try burning their whole team and maybe you could overwhelm their monks, assuming they're morons without any protectors.

The build has no potential, and everyone who has a pvp ele with flare in their bar should log in right now and remove it.

I agree with you in one thing, and that is if the OP and his team targetted everyone on the other team, it would actually generate more damage over all. It would be harder for the enemy monks to actually keep up w/ all the burning if done right.

However, on another note, I would not go around bashing all the builds saying it sucks, if you have x spell, delete your account, etc. Just as an example, I was reading a post earlier today that dated from early September I think it was when an IWAY build got posted and a ton of people said it was shit, it had no potential, and they have no respect for someones abitlity to reason out the mechanics of the game if this is what they run.

I dont know about you, but I seem to see a lot of annoyed people about IWAY, and it certainly did seem effective in the hands of the good as well as the noobs.

EDIT: Don't know if the OP will even read this, but thats just my 2 cents

Knight of Eternal Darknes · Oct 07, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

this would work pretty well in tombs if you worked well together,

Prot spirit with 500life(50dmg a shot)
Mark of Protection(what noob would bring that?)

since flare has no recharge time you can't just keep firing all you want with an only 5 energy cost